![]() Interview with Gregory Orr in this issue _______ Gregory Orr Photo Credit: Trisha Orr. _______ _______ Works from CONCERNING THE BOOK THAT IS THEBODY OF THE BELOVED (Copper Canyon, 2005), HOW BEAUTIFUL THE BELOVED(Copper Canyon Press, 2009) by permission of Copper Canyon Press | ![]() Gregory Orr
From CONCERNING THE BOOK THAT IS THEBODY OF THE BELOVED (Copper Canyon Press, 2005)
“What is life?” When youfirst Hear that question It echoes in your skull As if someone shouted In an empty cave.
The same answer each time: The resurrection of the body Of the beloved, which is The world.
Every poem different, but Telling the same story. And we’ve been gathering Them in a book Since writing began And before that as songs Or poems people memorized And recited aloud When someone asked: “What is life?”
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The things that die Do not die, Or they die briefly To be born again In the Book.
Did you think You would see The loved one again In this world Or in some other?
No, that cannot happen. But we have been Gathering, all of us, The scattered remnants Of the loved one Since the beginning.
In Egypt, the loved One is not in the pyramids But in the poem Carved in stone About the lover’s lips And eyes. Inthe igloo The poem gathers The dark hair of the beloved.
All the poems of the world Have been gathering the beloved’s Body against your loss. Read in the Book. Open Your eyes and your heart; Open your voice. Thebeloved Is there and was never lost.
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When Sappho wrote: “whatever one loves most is beautiful,” she began the poems of heart’s praise which comprise the Book of the body of the beloved which is the world.
Everything in the Book Flows from that single poem Or the countless others That say the same thing In other words, other ways.
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The world comes into the poem. The poem comes into the world. Reciprocity—it all comes down To that. As with lovers: When it’s right you can’t say Who is kissing whom.
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Now the snow is falling Even more than an hour ago. The pine in the backyard Bows with the weight of it.
Two years ago, my father Died. What love we had Hidden under misery, Weighed down with years Of silence.
And now, Maybe the poem can free Us, maybe the poem can express The love and let the rest Slide to the earth as the snow Does now, freeing the tree Of its burden.
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To be alive: not just the carcass But the spark. That’s crudely put, but…
If we’re not supposed to dance, Why all this music?
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Calm down, calm down. But why calm down? When I’m dead and only A poem in the Book Read by someone Not yet born, Then I’ll be calm. Then I’ll tell them In a quiet voice What a miracle it is To be alive. I won’t Shout and jump around. I’ll whisper it in her ear.
And if I’m lucky She’ll shout and jump Around; her heart Will beat a little faster.
From HOW BEAUTIFUL THE BELOVED(Copper Canyon Press, 2009)
If to say it once And once only, then still To say: Yes.
And say it complete, Say it as if the word Filled the whole moment With its absolute saying.
Later for “but,” Later for “if.” Now Only the single syllable That is the beloved, That is the world.
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The Book said we were mortal; It didn’t say we had to be morbid.
The Book said the beloved died, But also that she comes again, That he’s reborn as words.
The Book said: everything perishes. The Book said: that’s why we sing.
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How beautiful The beloved.
Whether garbed In mortal tatters, Or in her dress Of everlastingness—
Moon broken On the water, Or moon Still whole In the night sky.
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Not many of them, it’s true, But certain poems In an uncertain world— The ones we cling to:
They bring us back Always to the beloved Whom we thought we’d lost.
As surely as if the words Led her by the hand, Brought him before us.
Certain poems In an uncertain world.
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Grief will come to you. Grip and cling all you want, It makes no difference.
Catastrophe? It’s just waiting tohappen. Loss? You can be certain of it.
Flow and swirl of the world. Carried along as if by a darkcurrent.
All you can do is keep swimming; All you can do is keep singing.
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This is what was bequeathed us: This earth the beloved left And, leaving, Left to us.
No other world But this one: Willows and the river And the factory With its black smokestacks.
No other shore, only this bank On which the living gather.
No meaning but what we find here. No purpose but what we make.
That, and the beloved’s clearinstructions: Turn me into song; sing me awake.
From RIVER INSIDE THE RIVER
Noteto self: remember What Emerson said Of Thoreau— That he loved the low In nature: Muskrats And crickets, suckers And frogs. Not stars.
Songs of the carnal, Songs of what we are.
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When the coffin closed at last, When flames consumed it, Your eyes were useless—
What tears could put out That fire? And so, you shut them. So, you let the lids of your eyes Close over the beloved’s body.
For a while now—darkness.
And what you see will be inside you.
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First, there was shatter. Then, aftermath.
Only later and only slowly We gathered words Against our loss.
But last was not least, Last was not least of these.
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Lead of the heart; Gold of song.
Alchemy of grief The poem performs.
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Bald, high-domed Taoist sage Holding the Peach of Immortality In one hand, a hiking staff in theother.
I like to think he’s reciting apoem, One that begins: “To eat a peach…” One that stresses its succulence, And how the sticky, delicious juice Dribbles down your chin.
He’s fresh from a rendezvous With the beloved. Peach And poem—both are her tokens.
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River inside the river. World within the world.
All we have is words
To reveal the rose That the rose obscures.
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